Separation of Church and State
We have been working down our acrostic of the biblical distinctives of Baptists. We have seen the importance of each one of these biblical distinctives:
B-A-P-T-I-S-T-S
We now come to S for Separation of Church and State. How do I feel about this issue? Well let me put it this way; I wear my feelings on my shirt.
Separation of church and state is perhaps one of the most readily accepted distinctives of biblical Baptists both within and without Christendom. We enjoy our religious freedom in the United States of America. We have been blessed in this nation with religious liberty because some have felt that it was and is important enough to live and die for, work and fight for. Indeed it is! The U.S. armed forces defend our freedom and for this reason our present troop’s and the veterans of every era deserve our respect and honor. They are the defenders of our liberty NOT the ACLU!
We should not forget, however, that this idea did not just come up one afternoon in some congressional think tank. It was not a mere proposal drafted by a political party and voted on because no one had anything better to do one day. This is the doing of an almighty God. All freedom loving nations owe their allegiance to Him. Just how did God accomplish this providential feat?
My temptation here is to give details about men of God, such as Roger Williams: The “Windmill in the Low Countries”, John Clarke: “A Lively Experiment… With Full Liberty in Religious Concernments”, Isaac Backus: “A Door Opened for Equal Christian Liberty”, and John Leland: “The Liberty I Contend for Is More than Toleration”* All of whom were (at least for some time) Baptists. Since others have done that work I will restrain my self and express the biblical distinctives of Baptists on the separation of church and state. This will be a biblical approach not a political approach. Here's an outline to get you thinking
I. What Is Separation of Church and State?
II. What Does the Bible Say about Separation of Church and State?
III. What about the First Amendment and Separation of Church and State?
IV. How Can Government Control the Churches?
V. What is the Christian's Responsibility to Government?
VI. What is the Government's Responsibility to the Church?
My hope is that this will be an edifying and thought provoking topic for all not just Baptists.
Next post: What does the Bible Say about Separation of Church and State?
*I recommend the book “Baptists and the American Tradition” by Robert C. Newman.
12 Comments:
Good stuff. Looking forward to more from the "Earnest Contender".
A fan
By mark pierson, at 6/4/06 6:38 AM
Thanks Mark,
More is on its way.
brother John
By J. Wendell, at 6/4/06 6:50 AM
In anticipation of your future remarks let me say that I am disappointed in the USUAL interpretation of the separation of church and state among Baptists.
I believe that the government has no business interfering with church matters.
I do NOT believe that the church has no place in government.
Indeed, we should, especially in a democratic republic, be extremely involved in guiding the thoughts of elected officials, voting for or against them and preventing them from instituting a state religion.
The first amendment prohibits the government from involving itself in AN establishment (noun), not THE establishment (verb) of religion.
I'm not sure when everything PUBLIC became everything GOVERNMENTAL.
We used to have PUBLIC schools, now we have GOVERNMENT school.
We need to wake up and smell the difference.
We have more laws than we need, don't emforce the ones we have and have degenerated into a factional society because we Christians allowed the government to usurp our influence.
We must obey the laws on the books and work hard to overturn those that are unjust.
And, yes, we should pay taxes.
Ooo. I have more, But that's probably more than enough said.
By Joe, at 6/4/06 7:19 AM
Good stuff.
By Matthew Celestine, at 6/4/06 7:52 AM
Great post, John! You know I don't always comment, but I always read ... and I want you to know that I really am looking forward to reading these next few posts ... and you know why!
By Rose~, at 6/4/06 11:40 AM
I've got my chair over here in the corner just waiting to read your thoughts! ;-)
By Kc, at 6/4/06 4:54 PM
Joe~
I hope I don't fall into the USUAL category then; on the other hand it is too bad that the church (universal) has fallen asleep or, at least, fallen into indifference. I do agree that in the local assemblies, we should educate and bring vital political issues to the foreground. Your comments are valued here, Joe and appreciated. I’ll be getting to the task.
brother John
By J. Wendell, at 6/4/06 5:27 PM
Thanks for coming by, DF. Glad to see you again!
Rose,
Thanks for saying that to me!
KC,
Please move your chair to the front of the class...
By J. Wendell, at 6/4/06 5:28 PM
Hi John :)
Great post :)
I totally agree.
I assume you are wary of faith based gov't funding.
God bless :)
Jodie
By Unknown, at 7/4/06 11:02 AM
Hi Jodie,
I am sorry... I wish I was more familiar with that particular issue. Any time the government funds something other than protecting our shores, and our citizen’s liberty that’s when we should exercise faith.
Thanks for the comment. Feel free to share something on that subject.
By J. Wendell, at 7/4/06 8:44 PM
I agree with Joe! :-)
By Dawn, at 25/4/06 9:46 AM
Hi Dawn,
Thanks for stoppin' in.
I agree with Joe too, He is a very wise brother.
By J. Wendell, at 25/4/06 9:55 PM
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