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Friday, March 10, 2006

The Qualities of the Pastor Delineated

These should be plain enough to understand:

1Tim.3:1-7
"A bishop then must be blameless..." NOT SINLESS, all the pastors said, "Amen!"

"...husband of one wife..." there may be some debate on what is meant by "one wife", it is not my purpose here to debate this.

"...vigilant..." the Greek word for this means, "vigilant". Webster's says, "Watchful; circumspect; attentive to discover and avoid danger, or to provide for safety."

"...sober..." means clear minded. A pastor needs to be a clear thinker.

"...of good behavior...", or orderly [in conduct].

"...given to hospitality..." Dear pastors (who may be reading this post) are you inviting?

"...apt to teach..." this may include the spiritual gift of teaching, but the quality is in the word "apt". In other words instructive.

"...not given to wine..." Thayer's says,"given to wine, drunken", is the meaning.

"...no striker..." Pastors should not be quarrelsome.

"...not greedy of filthy lucre..." I am no longer surprised when well dressed "pastors" beg for a seed of faith offering (meaning one's life savings) from the TV audience, with the "promise" of prosperity quoting, "...it is better to give than to receive...". I don't know anyone who has ever received a check from any of these religious shysters who live like kings.

"...patient..." You want me to leave the pastors alone and move on to the office of deacon right now... don't you?

"...not a brawler..." Webster's says this is "A noisy fellow; a wrangler." Not contentious would be a better rendering, meaning not given to angry debate; not quarrelsome. In other words, pastors, don't be an argument waiting to happen.

"... not covetous..." Not avaricious, in other words not greedy of gain; nor immoderately desirous of accumulating property, (esp. that which belongs to others).

"... One that ruleth well his own house having his children in subjection with all gravity..." The charge here is that a man must be able to establish and maintain order in his home. The man must be the head of his home and must have the respect and honor of his children which will be apparent by their behavior. Why is this important? The following verse explains...

"...For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God...." Here is where the Bible puts the shoe leather to the pavement. Paul encapsulates all he has said up to this point and makes it very practical indeed. If you are a pastor (or if you desire to be a pastor) you have the responsibility, duty, and mandate to be one in your home as your first and primary priority. Paul's statement plainly says you are to rule your house and implies that this how to properly care for the church of God! The word care (Gk.epimeleomai) is a verb or action word it means to care for (physically or otherwise):-take care of. This word seems to be unique to Paul and his companion Luke. It is the word employed in Luke 10:34-35 the context of which is the good citizen. It is a pastoral word. This is all the more true when speaking of the oversight of the church of God.

"...Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil..." You may be talented, gifted, hold a prestigious position in your field of expertise, but if you are a new believer, or if you are immature in your faith... you are not yet ready for this office! If, however, you desire this "good work" pursue it! How? First become a pastor in your character.

"...Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil...." The pastorate is not for those who can't do anything else very well. It is for those who by virtue of doing well have a good reputation outside of the church.

I once asked a former Sunday School teacher how he could treat people so harshly in his position as vice president of a small company. His reply: "This is work, not church! There is a difference." Yes, there is... your reputation is important outside of the church. God cares how we treat unbelievers, not just the variety that visit the church service. God cares about how we work. He cares about how we conduct business. Listen, brothers and sisters, God's reputation is on the line too! He's living in your life to draw others to Himself, not just so He can be glorified by means of your personal satisfaction in Him. This may fly in the face of some popular theological idea, but this is the Word of God! Not many of us are as satisfied with God's purpose for trials as we are saatisfied with a juicy steak; that's OK. He is still just no mater what He serves us, and how we respond to everything matters. This is especially true of pastors.

The Parallel Passage

Titus 1: 6-9
"If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly."

Paul here throws children into the mix. He says that it is important for pastors to have faithful (our word pis-tos' remember? objectively trustworthy; subjectively trustful) children on the positive side. On the negative side they are to be of such character that they would not be accused of being profligate or being abandoned in moral principle and in vice. Children of pastors should be good kids not insubordinate, or disobedient. Why is this? What do you think? Is this because children are reflective of parents? Could it be because a pastor has enough to deal with in his church, so he doesn't need added burden of the constant care of bratty kids? Is it proof that he rules his house well? ????

"...For a bishop must be blameless, as the steward of God..."

We have seen in 1Timothy that blameless does not mean sinless. Paul mentions it twice here in Titus. In conjuntion with his wife and in conjunction with stewardship. "There are two things Satan will use to bring down a pastor..." an old timer used to tell me, "...women and money." Brother pastor (reading this post) fly from these unsatisfying luers. Brothers and sisters (reading this post) pray for your pastors, that Satan would not cause them to fall. This is not funny bussiness left for sitcoms... this is Christ's reputation! Again, and quietly, I urge the saints to pray for their leaders.

"...For a bishop must be blameless, as the steward of God not selfwilled, not soon angry, not given to wine, no striker, not given to filthy lucre..."

Does any one see a conection here? I know for me, I get the most ticked-off when I don't get my way... that is, when I think I deserve to get my own way yet don't. I also know some guys and gals (not that you, dear reader, fall here) that, when they don't get thier own way, they get angry, then cling to the bottle, then pick a fight or start a fight. The pastor is not to behave like a hocky player, nor a brawling drunk! He is, however, to be...

"...a lover of hospitality [fond of guests] a lover of good men[fond of good, that is, a promoter of virtue: - love of good men.], sober[curbing one’s desires and impulses, moderate as to opinion or passion], just [rightious], holy, temperate [strong yet self controled].

The pastor is to be "...Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught..." Why?

"...that he may be able by sound doctrine [healthy, uncorrupt, true, teaching that flows from a faithfull hermenutic of Scripture].

"...both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers." Why would God want "any man" to do this? Drop down to Titus 1:13, "...that they may be sound in the faith..."

The prophet Jude wrote, "Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints."

This is the ministy.

16 Comments:

  • John, thanks for sharing the qualities of an elder. Some good practical exposition here, even if I disagree about the application you are giving it.

    God Bless

    Matthew

    By Blogger Matthew Celestine, at 10/3/06 4:15 PM  

  • Thanks Matthew,

    I noticed you said "elder" that's a start. The passage never uses the word elder, but it is apparent from other Scriptures that it is speaking of elder/bishop/pastor. Your encouragement is pleasent to hear, even if and when we disagree.

    brother John

    By Blogger J. Wendell, at 11/3/06 6:05 AM  

  • Hi John

    You said:

    (Children of pastors should be good kids not insubordinate, or disobedient.)

    This is a real hard look at childern and alot of pastors have thrown in the towel on this one.

    Childern have free wills too and if we look at the fathers of the bible we will see that not all the childern walk as the father did.

    So does that mean they should have given up ?

    Titus 1:6
    "If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly."]

    Parent must keep your kid under controll and Disciplined at all time. To say (good kids) that a big order.

    What is your veiw on this ?

    Thanks John great Post

    Doug

    By Blogger forgiven, at 11/3/06 7:56 AM  

  • Hi brother Doug,

    Adam had a good Father, great living environment, and even Adam went wrong. Prersonally I feel that if, and as long as children are living under my roof, they will comply with my rules or suffer the consequences.

    I don't think the Bible speaks of sinless perfection do you?

    brother John

    By Blogger J. Wendell, at 11/3/06 11:20 AM  

  • Well, I think it is conclusive that bishop and elder are the same thing. However, there seems little evidence to me that pastors are elders/ bishops.

    God Bless

    Matthew

    By Blogger Matthew Celestine, at 11/3/06 11:35 AM  

  • Matthew,
    Acts 20:17, 28 show the three words for the same office: Elder, Bishop, and Pastor

    From Miletus he [Paul] sent to Ephesus and called for the 1 elders of the church... Therefore take heed to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you 2 overseers (bishops), to 3 shepherd (pastor) the church of God which He purchased with His own blood.

    Notice how the apostle Peter uses the same three terms describing one office in 1 Peter 5:1-4.

    The 1 elders who are among you I exhort, I who am a fellow elder and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, and also a partaker of the glory that will be revealed: 2 Shepherd the flock of God which is among you, serving as 3 overseers, not by compulsion but willingly, not for dishonest gain but eagerly; nor as being lords over those entrusted to you, but being examples to the flock; and when the Chief Shepherd appears, you will receive the crown of glory that does not fade away.

    Did you also notice that Christ is the Chief Shepherd? Does that not surely imply that there are under-shepherds?

    Thanks for helping me to stay alert. Keeping my mind biblically active is so good for me right now.

    brother John

    By Blogger J. Wendell, at 11/3/06 7:15 PM  

  • I do not deny that there is overlap of function between elders and pastors.

    That the elders are to pastor the flock does not necessarilly make them pastors as such. Nor does it prove that the same kind of shepherding is done by elders as by pastors.

    I think the fact that pastorship is a gift and eldership is an appointed office is the key factor in determing that there is a difference.

    Every Blessing in Christ

    Matthew

    By Blogger Matthew Celestine, at 12/3/06 10:02 AM  

  • Matthew,
    I can see what you are sying, but in your view, why is it important for an elder/pastor to be appointed to an office by an apostle?

    By Blogger J. Wendell, at 12/3/06 1:38 PM  

  • Because authority derives from God. It is deeply presumptuos to act on our own authority and to do things without God's warrant.

    God Bless

    Matthew

    By Blogger Matthew Celestine, at 16/3/06 12:12 PM  

  • Hi Matthew,

    It is deeply [presumptuous] to act on our own authority and to do things without God's warrant.

    I agree, but what does an apostle have to do with obeying the Word which they have co-authored? (eg. 1Ti 3:1)

    In your view, why is it important for an elder/pastor to be appointed to an office by an apostle? Do you have a verse that says something to this effect?

    As I have demonstrated, it seems to me that a local body of believers has this authority.

    Thank for your input,
    brother John

    By Blogger J. Wendell, at 17/3/06 6:13 AM  

  • John, thanks for keeping up the discussion. I hope Bill and I are not making you weary.

    Where in the Scripture do we find a local body of Christians appointing elders?

    Titus was commanded to appoint elders. There is no commandment given to Christians in general to appoint elders, though we should certainly recognise those who have the gift of a pastor and we should support them in their work.

    It is vital that we obey the commands given to us in the Word and not decide what we need to do on the basis of our own judgment.

    Every Blessing in Christ

    Matthew

    By Blogger Matthew Celestine, at 17/3/06 11:16 AM  

  • Once again Matthew, I gave the Scripture to support the idea of pastors and deacons only and why I believe a local Bible-believing congregation has the biblical authority to elect officers as they will. I give you the last word!

    brother John

    BTW - Thank you for coming back. I am not weary. All has been great fun discussing this with you.

    By Blogger J. Wendell, at 17/3/06 10:30 PM  

  • Can I side with John for once? :)

    Hi, Matthew! :)

    I don't think scripture gives much evidence AT ALL about "pastors". I'm actually impressed that John has equated pastor/elder/overseer. It gives some benefits. For one, we can take the numerous mentions of the word "shepherd" (usually as a verb) during the elder passages and give that meaning to the (one, little, lonely) word "pastors" in Ephesians - which, of course, IS the same word.

    Without taking this view, I don't see ANY verse in the entire NT that can help you, Matthew, or any of us to figure out what Paul meant by "pastor".

    Most people just see those six letters and READ IN whatever they're used to from their own life. "Pastor" means whatever their own practice is - or so they think...

    John here has actually worked out a much more consistent view of the overall issue of leadership in the NT. (My doubts with John's view are mainly about whether his church actually matches that view!) :)

    But I think it's very consistent to equate "pastors" in Eph.4 with the elders and overseers. (The next question is whether those men actually DID very much, and I think they mostly sat and watched... but that's another issue.)

    So, Matthew... here's my question:

    Why does this issue of "office" versus "gift" mean so much? (It sounds like a teaching I'm not familiar with, for one.)

    Mainly, it sounds like you're letting a couple of abstract terms dictate your view of the record we have about real-life people.

    Wheras John, to his credit, has focused on the groups of men listed in Acts 20 and 1 Tim and Titus (and sortof in Peter); and he's put together some type of view about the men and their responsibilites - in practical terms - then allowed terms and titles to shift into the background. (At least, in his arguments they shift into the background.) Which I applaud.

    By the way, John. Sorry if I didn't say so before - in so many words! :)

    (But if the terms are interchangeable, in your view, John, then why use "Pastor"? I'm curious.)

    I know this post is two weeks old - I hope you two are still checking on this thread! :)

    It's funny that, while Matthew and I may be (relatively) closer in practice, John and I are (relatively) closer on this particular point! :)

    Still enjoying, by the way.
    Thanks, you two.

    By Blogger Bill Heroman, at 19/3/06 2:10 PM  

  • Bill, interesting point.

    A gift is something given by the Holy Spirit directly.

    An 'office' (I am not sure I like this term) is a position that a person is appointed to.

    This is very important.

    We may have as many pastors in an assembly as the Holy Ghost is pleased to give us.

    However, the appointed officers we have depends upon:

    1) the power to appoint such officers.
    2) the actual exercise of that power.

    The problem is that most churches appoint their pastors, when this is a work of the Holy Spirt.

    A man may show that he has the gift of a pastor by exercising that gift. He would be a pstor regardless of the decision of any congregation to appoint him.

    Every Blessing in Christ

    Matthew

    By Blogger Matthew Celestine, at 19/3/06 4:18 PM  

  • Matthew, I do like your thinking... and I think I agree.

    I believe a "pastor" is simply someone in the local body who takes care of the church.

    If the Lord is alive in the local body, then SHE is going to GROW her eyes and her ears and her hands and her feet. He will GIVE "some" to help the rest of us grow "until" we ALL...

    And some will naturally develop more of a "shepherding" gift than others.

    (But I mean "shepherding" in a caring way - not the authoritarian way in which that word was used 30 years ago during the movement with that name.)

    Matthew, you also said you may not like the term "office". That same feeling sits in me as well.

    Still, I do see a connection between theses roles, if only because of the verb "shepherd" in the elders passages.

    Perhaps, in a perfectly spiritual body (!?!), the "selection" or the "appointment" or the "voting for" of elders would simply, merely POINT OUT who those "gifted" ones happened to be?

    (And I don't mean "gifted" like the elementary school honors students program! :)

    The Holy Spirit works these things organically into the local body of Christ.

    If we are also to "select", then it ought to be (ideally) guided by the HS.

    Agreed?

    John?

    By Blogger Bill Heroman, at 20/3/06 4:05 PM  

  • Thanks, Bill

    I think the connection between pastors and elders based on shepherding is not strong enougth to be 100% certain.

    I think appointing pastors is unhelpful, though one might make agreements with others to ensure the regular support of those working in that capacity.

    Elders were only appointed by apostles or by those delegated to carry out appointments, such as Titus and possibly Timothy. We do not posses that power today.

    Every Blessing in Christ

    Matthew

    By Blogger Matthew Celestine, at 20/3/06 5:07 PM  

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